This past week was a busy week with visits to the Registro Civil here in Buenos Aires to pick up Caitlyn's Acta de Nacimiento, another trip to Mater Dei to get more of my hospital records for the U.S. Consulate appointment to register a foreign birth abroad, and then finally - the actual appointment at the consulate to apply for her American passport and the CROBA or "consular report of birth abroad."
Caitlyn will have dual citizenship once the consular record of a birth abroad is approved, but that means two passports and understanding how that affects her when traveling to the US or to Argentina.
So, if you plan to travel to the U.S. and will be registering their foreign
birth abroad you must have the baby's Argentine passport to leave the
country (this is my next post) and their American passport to enter the
States. So you need to also do the Argentine passport as soon as
possible.
By US laws, even if your children also hold foreign
nationality, they are required to enter and depart the United States on
a valid US passport at all times. They should not enter the United
States on a foreign passport or on US visa waiver program.
One other thing to be aware of that is very important:
if your baby is born here in Argentina then they will forever have
"born in Argentina" in their American passport. If they want to travel
to Argentina later in life they should enter and exit Argentina on a
current Argentine passport because they are still considered as being
governed
by Argentine laws once they set foot in the country and without the
passport they will not be allowed to leave the country if someone sees
the born in Argentina in their American passport.
NOW FOR THE PROCESS
You should really do this as soon as possible after your baby is born in Argentina. Here is what you need to know based on our experience (which was a positive one as her applications were all approved!)
1. Contact the U.S. Consulate in Buenos Aires for to request the
information package "How to Register a Child Born Abroad" by email at
[email protected] or by mail: Consular Section , United States
Embassy, Av. Colombia 4300, C1425GMN Buenos Aires.
The package
will contain all your instructions, the form for the consular birth
record of birth abroad, a passport application, an affadavit detailing
the time in and out of country, and a social security application
(which you won't need to fill out because now you can't apply for one
until you get your passport.) p.s. while you're waiting for the packet,
visit the U.S. Department of State's page on "documentation of U.S. Citizens born abroad" for a lot of great information.
2. Once you have the packet, call or email to make an appointment - if you want to call them then best to do early in the day. They will give you an appointment with the time and the window number (in reality you'll be going to one of two windows that are set up for passports). You'll need to go with the baby's father and the baby.
3. Prepare all of your paperwork (read the backs of the forms
carefully to make sure you fill in the information the way they like
it). You'll need your major documentation in originals (ie. marriage
certificate etc.) and preferably certified but you won't need to bring
them any copies - I think they copy what they need.
*You need to
provide them with proof that you lived in the U.S. for at least five
years of your life as a US born citizen (if not born in US then read
the packet to see the differences). In our case I provided them with my
unofficial school transcripts as well as a file of bills from my pets
over the years that I had dragged along in my records since I didn't
have anything else that covered enough time.
4. The day of your appointment make sure you give yourself some
additional time as you have to go through a security check which takes
a bit of extra time.
Once at appointment, take a number and sit down to wait to be called by
number or name whichever comes first. The person at the first window
will go through your papers with you to make sure everything is in
order.
Next you'll be sent to pay the fees for the CROBA which is 65.00 US
and the passport which is 82.00 US (you can also pay by credit card or
in pesos).
After you finish paying and have your receipt you head back to the
person processing your paperwork, give them the receipt and wait to be
called up again for the final processing.
When called up again, they confirm all your paperwork, ask some
questions, ask to see the child, and have you sign and do a swearing in
that everything is true. If everything is fine...all is approved.
Passport should take around 10-14 days to get to your Argentine address
by DHL.
5. Final step, take the receipt they give you and go to the DHL window on the way out, pay the DHL fee in pesos and give the address you want the passport sent to.
All in all, it wasn't too difficult, particularly as it was only one of us who is a U.S. citizen with the other one still considered a French citizen till naturalized.
One last thing, if you ever need a certified copy of a "consular record of foreign birth abroad" they you'll need it from the Department of State. They have all the information you'll need right on their website.
I was born in Argentina to American parents who moved us back to the U.S. when I was 15. I haven't kept my DNI or my passport current. Am I still considered an Argentine citizen? Can I renew my DNI and passport?
Posted by: Feeling Homesick | Thursday, April 05, 2007 at 06:55 PM
They required an Argentine passport until pretty recently (around six years ago), so maybe there is where the misunderstanding comes from. But anyone from Migraciones, Cancillería (Foreign Affairs) or any Argentine consulate should know that it is no longer the case. However, since you want something "black on white", here is the confirmation of what I wrote from the Argie embassy in the US:
http://www.embassyofargentina.us/espanol/seccionconsular/pasaportes.htm#argentinosqueviajan
Cheers.
Posted by: Diego | Monday, January 29, 2007 at 08:07 PM
Diego, Thanks for your comment. I always find it interesting how governmental officials tell you different things (even within the same office) and then someone else has a different experience. Do you have somewhere that it's in writing about that, because I was explicitly warned about that. It's interesting too because when you enter a country you have been born in or have citizenship in, they usually want you on the passport for that country. Anyway, would love to know if you have it in writing somewhere so I can keep that with my daughters passports, you know how it is here I'm sure...
Laura
Posted by: moving to argentina | Monday, January 29, 2007 at 10:53 AM
I would like to point you that an Argentine can enter to Argentina using a foreign passport (e.g. American) as long as his stay is less than 60 days. Only if the stay exceeds that period a local passport is required.
I know that for a fact: I was born in Argentina, but every time I travel to Argentina I use a Canadian passport.
Posted by: Diego | Monday, January 29, 2007 at 02:23 AM
Wow, that is good to know. Especially the part about when to use what passport. My wife is Argentine and is heading back, she just got her American citizenship and passport. And we were wondering, when to use which... Thanks for the tip!
Posted by: John Labriola | Saturday, January 27, 2007 at 12:25 PM